In part, this process means evolving upward from low races to higher races. > My daughter, being defiant (I thought they like independent thinking), was labeled a demon by her teacher and was bullied for years... cutting herself and finally going into a mental breakdown. I hope to get the attorney general involved to recover the taxpayer dollars that Highland Hall should pay — and to investigate what happened to my daughter. Highland Hall denies any responsibility - despite years of permitting this to go unchecked. If anyone can overcome this, it is my daughter... but without the support of the people who really love her, and considerable distance from the monsters at Highland Hall, I don't see it happening very easily. [, I'd like to supplement Peter's posting with something I put on the Waldorf Watch "news" page today [, I am jumping the gun on this item, which I have taken from the September/October SKEPTICAL INQUIRER [, But this is your lucky day. I also wondered if I left too much unsaid, in my little tale of the logical mason. This is a tough nut to crack (as it were). Anthroposophists usually say that Anthroposophy is not a religion; or, when they wobble a bit on this point, they say that Anthroposophy is essentially Christian. Shocked recognition of the truth. This resulted in the bridge collapse and the conviction of the designer for gross negligence. http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/2010/10/where-do-waldorf-teachers-go.html, Sign in|Recent Site Activity|Report Abuse|Print Page|Powered By Google Sites. The case of Rudolf Hess raises the question of what constitutes an Anthroposophist.In establishing a definition we could go … What I am not doing is playing with words or rigging the argument. By the 10th grade, her mother claims she had "no control over her" and allowed her to be taken in by a 30 year old man who was supplying her with crystal meth. If only lunatics believed Steiner, the case would be closed: Nuts believe nutty things. To exorcise these demons, apparently exercise (running laps) was a good thing. Nuts and seeds are super healthy and an important addition to any health-conscious diet plan. It need not frighten people, however, for the present phase of evolution. What do I try to provoke? The problem is all the worse, of course, when the self-appointed "messiahs" are working in the service of a faith that is utterly irrational and fallacious. I'd like for everyone to get along. A good mason can look at a bad masonry job and understand why it is bad. I'm aware, of course, that many Anthroposophists consider several of us who participate here to be demons. My college memories tend to be vague, with a large and ever-shifting cast of characters. But messianism almost invariably leads to intolerance and destruction. and "Inside Scoop: Tackling the Question, How Can Smart People Believe This Junk?" One was incredibly under-qualified, the other brought her teenage pedophile son with her to prey on our kids... WITH Highland Hall's knowledge... they even covered up incidents. Please know that you and your daughter have many friends and well-wishers. Goodall's research proved that chimpanzees could use tools like stalks of grass to fish out termites from termite holes; this also challenged the long-held belief that chimpanzees were vegetarians. His masterpiece, WALDEN, is a medley (some would say jumble) of affronts, jokes, exaggerations, allegories, and plain truth-telling. ), so I have thought about this a lot. It just so happens that I have the answer (blush). Get unbeatable quality & freshness. Right? Usually I attempt top convey the truth by writing clearly and logically. P.S. For Anthroposophists, nearly everything I have written is beyond the line, outrageous, wicked. People who embrace those delusions become cut off, to varying degrees, from reality. It was her way of justifying her own wrongdoings. Anthropomorphism, the interpretation of nonhuman things or events in terms of human characteristics, as when one senses malice in a computer or hears human voices in the wind. And a faith or "philosophy" up for various (and often wildly divergent) interpretations. And the teachers were, for the most part, discreet as well as kindly. Then the initial good impulses that brought people to Anthroposophy — seeking spiritual answers, spiritual solace, spiritual awareness — can lead to the very opposite of what anyone could have wanted, harsh and ugly spiritual blindness. —. Oh Why? Passages preceded by ">" are quoted from previous messages. By some unfortunate stroke of bad luck, Waldorf teacher (and now teacher trainer at Highland Hall) Christine Leonard announced my own daughter was demonically possessed when she was 10 years old. “Among the faculty, we must certainly carry within us the knowledge that we are not here for our own sakes, but to carry out the divine cosmic plan. Races would not stay behind and become decadent if there were not men who wish to stay behind and are obliged to stay behind, since they have not developed their eternal life-kernel [i.e., living essence]. Great Barrington, MA: Anthroposophic Press, 1996, p. 60. I have worked in psychiatric halfway houses, sheltered workshops for disabled adults, and years ago ran a group home for disabled adults. And this, I submit, is tragic or at least potentially tragic. They do badly in school and in most other parts of their lives. I have a crowded schedule for the next few days, so maybe I should just say the following before lapsing into silence again. But if Waldorf Watch succeeds in helping anyone to find the truth about Waldorf education, I'll be content. Steiner taught that we are meant to evolve upwards. The story goes he came out of his car with the weapon in his hand and he was shot to death. We could opine endlessly about why this is so, but I think we must acknowledge that most people don't use their best thinking skills in the most important spheres of life. Period. Time passed. No person is less than human. What I have learned from you and others has been shocking. In other words, s/he should be her own toughest critic. In any event, the incident was not a foreign element in my mind...that is, I could imagine myself doing something similar or perhaps worst because I had been through a dark period some years before when I felt the need to revenge myself on people in positions of authority who had wronged me (with implications for my family)...my prayers were not answered so I concluded God was just going to sit on his ass and let the rain fall on the just and the unjust..."F-that", said I, "if You aren't going to straighten things out, I will"...I even thought (really imagined) about how I was going to dress as I brought the bad guys low...ah martyrdom, how bloody heroic...I intended to prepare my family for the eventuality and spoke of it to my oldest son who was still just a little boy...he wept in apprehension and his tears brought me to my senses...that was the end of my dark dream but not my bitterness toward Old He-Who-Is. So why shouldn't you? I'm generalizing. A mason, for instance, learns to use critical thinking in the matter of masonry: Is the design for a project good, how many bricks will the job take, how much mortar, where will the loads be borne, how many hours will the job take, how many assistants are needed, what price must be charged to make a profit? I hope things will go well for your daughter for the remainder of her life. Different folks put the line in different places. If anything, I'd say that anthroposophists in Europe (or in Germany at least) often tend to have higher than average levels of education, and one of the striking things about the modern occult revival in general is that its central constituency was highly educated and economically comfortable. One of the biggest problems in any attempt to set up reasonable communications between Anthroposophists and non-Anthroposophists is that, when disagreements arise, the former tend to demonize the latter. As an "intelligent designer", I apply my critical thinking into the design. The victims, of course, put their trust in the designer and the executors. I think I would summarize it by saying that Anthroposophy is a set of delusions. What do I try to provoke? I hope to file a case with the attorney general, besides my own lawsuit. Did the teacher tell her, to her face, that she was a demon? Nevertheless, these are facts." Oh Why? Everyone's busy, I guess. Steiner R. The Foundations of Human Experience (Foundations of Waldorf Education, 1). Curiously, many Anthroposophists seem to be very left-wing, while the occult philosophy of Steiner is more “conservative” in nature. See more. Beings that stay behind at such stages appear in a later epoch with approximately the character of the earlier age. But how can sane individuals believe nutty things? LS. Disability is a fact of life and doesn't reflect on a person's spiritual status in any way, shape or form. In this, as in other things, I am influenced by Henry David Thoreau. Thoughts. I went down it myself, for many long years. Imagine what people would say if they heard that we say there are people who are not human beings. I'm no Thoreau. Another way of approaching the question would be to ask, Who would Anthroposophists recognizes their own? )*, Another subset of humanity consists of ultra-rational folks who apply strict logic to every area of life. c) Therefore, Roger is not a real human being. It just so happens that I have the answer (blush). When he decided that someone had serious problems, he was fully capable of declaring him/her to be subhuman. And the teachers were, for the most part, discreet as well as kindly. The state of California is footing the bill for my daughter's health care and schooling under the LAUSD. The two teachers that Highland Hall found to replace these two people were left-overs after all the other new teachers had been hired. My enemy suffered terrible blows of fate in the course of his life beyond my wildest dark imaginings. [108] [109] Important early anthroposophists who were Jewish included two central members on the executive boards of the precursors to the modern Anthroposophical Society, [110] and Karl König, the founder of the Camphill movement , who had … This background accounts for many of the distinctive esoteric tendencies that anthroposophists today frequently display. (I don't mean to condemn them, either. He tries any and every approach to shake the reader out of complacency, trying to force the reader to confront the truth. Grab a handful of almonds to munch on between meals or toss them over a salad for a boost of protein, healthy fats, and antioxidants. I would suggest that critical thinking, far from being destructive, is the most constructive tool available to us. The earth does not wait for him, the earth goes forward and he finally arrives at a point where he can no longer incorporate in a human body, for none are in existence. http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/2010/10/working-with-highland-hall-petes.html, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/15492. The amounts of saturated fat, the type of fat we should avoid, varies between nuts and has been flagged below. Anthropomorphism is the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to non-human entities, including animals. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/15496. Where should we draw the line between sweet reason and unacceptable effrontery? I'm using an old trick I learned as a teacher (old trick, old teacher) — to get a discussion going, say something debatable. Passages preceded by ">" are quoted from previous messages. However, as nuts are also high in calories, 0.5 ounces (14 grams) of nuts or seeds is considered equivalent to 1 ounce (28 grams) of other protein sources, such … There is gross negligence here, conspiracy to commit fraud, and a whole lot of other crimes by various people. Nuts are generally roasted to improve their taste, aroma and crunchy texture ().Roasting is defined as cooking using dry heat, which cooks the food evenly on all sides. replies are often posted long after questions are asked. Exposure is what I am seeking for the monsters at Highland Hall. My daughter started on a path of self-destruction from that time on. Awhile back, Peter [Staudenmaier] posted an excellent mini-essay here on rationality and rational discussion. I try, always, to avoid saying or writing anything that is untrue. (And perhaps this is just as well. "That little girl L.K. The North American Anthroposophic Nurses Association strives to uphold and cultivate the Anthroposophic nursing and medical practices indicated by Rudolf Steiner and Ita Wegman. Anthroposophy definition, a philosophy based on the teachings of Rudolf Steiner (1861–1925) which maintains that, by virtue of a prescribed method of self-discipline, cognitional experience of the spiritual world can be achieved. Why have they deserved this? But messianism almost invariably leads to intolerance and destruction. These people, too, are rare. Logically, there are only a few ways to do this. Brazil nuts are not legumes or drupes. Was your daughter aware of this label? I'd love for them to have to pay the state for my daughter's health care - but only because I know it would hurt them. Because I define anthroposphists as those who are members of the AS. They do not advance with world evolution, they remain behind at a certain stage. > I'm aware, of course, that many Anthroposophists consider several of us who participate here to be demons. and the tendency of Anthroposophists to demonize their critics. The main goal of anthroposophy is to spiritualize ourselves and the world. For Anthroposophists, nearly everything I have written is beyond the line, outrageous, wicked. Derived from the Greek anthropos (“human”) and morphe (“form”), the term was first used to refer to the attribution of human physical or mental features to deities. Recovery from the damage inflicted by a Waldorf school is possible, I truly believe, but when the damage is severe the recovery, obviously, may be prolonged and difficult. See more. I also experienced them as real human beings and find Steiner's nonsense about demons and various supposed spiritual defects in such people to be totally offensive. Well, that would have to be the best trained people for this – Waldorf teachers. More than just nuts. According to Steiner, people judged to be nonhuman may be demons in disguise. The roughly 1.5-inch (3.8 centimeters) snacks are disqualified from being true nuts, because 10 to 25 of them grow inside a … Thoughts. Instead, a single Anthroposophist stepped forward to make yet another illogical comment on the subject of logic. Damn, Pete. Usually I attempt top convey the truth by writing clearly and logically. In the case sited above, the designer trusted the executors to make the necessary changes in the design - something the executors were not qualified to do. Anthroposophy is not to be confounded with Anthropology, the scientific study of mankind. Shocked recognition of the truth. By reason of the fact that they have not made use of life! This head-in-the-sand approach unsurprisingly yields a thoroughly naive and credulous view of Steiner and his teachings. I have a paper-trail a mile long pointing out what happened and the lies that were told to cover things up. 649-650. I have done some light editing, and I have included one message from another thread. I'm horrified. But they can't spell or add or think their way out of a paper bag. (Note where the provocation led, as I intended.). Anthroposophists mean well, but there is no excuse for some of their actions and beliefs. This is all part of the court record. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/15362. “When a school is based on a spiritual conception of the human being, a more diverse set of values become important. But sometimes I add a dollop of humor, which may or may not be an aid to comprehension. By striving forward, however, he is drawn up from race to race to ever higher stages. [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/14978] I liked it so much that I swiped it and reposted it at Waldorf Watch [https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/criticism] Well, really, Peter kindly gave me permission to do so. They are called the ‘sixteen paths of perdition.’ On these paths man would merge with the material [i.e., become almost wholly material rather than spiritual]. Otherwise, stop using the "no true Waldorf school" fallacy... (Frank, Dottie). To most rational people, Rudolf Steiner's doctrines are obvious nonsense. Highland Hall WILL PAY for what they did... of that there is no question. Imagine what people would say if they heard that we say there are people who are not human beings. I attended a Waldorf school for 11 years, having many of the same schoolmates and teachers during that entire period. [https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/inside-scoop]. I don't care about recovering damages for myself. His wife was an anthroposophist and they had children. Good health is achieved when the physical organism is properly “aligned” with three nonphysical bodies that manifest during a human’s lifetime: (1) the “etheric body” (a set of life forces), (2) the “astral body” (higher soul forces), and (3) the “I” (a spark of divine selfhood or ego that separates true humans from animals and subhumans). > Anthroposophists believe they are on the side of the angels and their critics are on the side of the demons — or their critics actually, literally, ARE demons. You might enjoy their company and indeed love them. A rare, exceptional event would be one thing, but there have been reports of so many horrific situations in and around Waldorf schools. He was intercepted on the highway by the police. [. But inflicting such an insane, medieval, ignorant judgment on a child almost surpasses comprehension. Some Waldorf teachers may believe Mrs. Leonard was right about her diagnosis of my daughter. I regret not going to see him for purposes of reconciliation before it was no longer possible. They were all real human beings. I think they owe my kids an education still... As far as attorneys getting the money, I'm working on getting my attorney fees for free - and, again, I'm not interested in a windfall - just exposure and accountability from those who harmed my kids. Did the teacher tell, to her face, that she was a demon? Oh Why? From my perspective, everything at Waldorf Watch is true. They have grown together with it, but not in the forms of the later epoch. > But over these past several years, as I have read and studied and corresponded, I've heard more and more of these horror stories. Wikimedia Commons has media related to Anthroposophists: Subcategories. Of course, we cannot truly know each other completely. The monsters that permitted this to go on for years know who they are... and they know I know who they are. Oh Why?" If they are not "true" Waldorf schools, pull the name!!! What does anthroposophists mean? But such thinking, utterly detached from "facts," dominates Waldorf schooling. — Rudolf Steiner, FACULTY MEETINGS WITH RUDOLF STEINER, pp. There are sixteen possibilities of becoming merged with the [i.e., a] race. I am jumping the gun on this item, which I have taken from the September/October SKEPTICAL INQUIRER [http://www.csicop.org/si/]. Aim to eat those in the amber and green bands most of the time and enjoy those in red category … THAT, I submit, is hateful thinking. I have worked on lots of construction projects, I have worked alongside masons, I have done masonry myself. Was your daughter aware of this label? A kind of fanaticism can result, along with self-righteousness. > Damn, Pete. He brandished it but left without causing hurt to anyone. I got to know these people well, and my interactions with them left strong impressions. The world is around them; they have possessed senses in order to perceive the world, to enrich the life-kernel and mold it to a higher stage. (Not mentioned in this book, the Anthroposophists are also anti-vaxxers.) At least some of my contacts with individuals having Down syndrome came during other periods of my life. > For all the damage that Waldorf inflicted on my family, we had things pretty easy. Sane, intelligent, educated, honest, and perfectly decent people are quite capable of experiencing profound delusions and distortions ... For those blessed with at least a modicum of sanity, the tools of critical thinking give some chance of remaining grounded in the world as it is.". There is no description ugly enough for this particular miscreant of a "teacher". Steiner also spread an even worse doctrine. Each has their following among anthroposophists, and each is controversial, some more than others. I've known many people who went down this sad road. In the end, the school didn't fire her... she resigned — primarily due to my letter-writing campaigns. I am not serenading you with bagpipes. Some said it was police overreaction, some said it was a classic case of suicide-by-cop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse. Plural form of anthroposophist. One interesting element of the recent situation: No Anthroposophist stepped forward to say "Aha! When Steiner spoke of people who become subhuman, he meant this literally. all the while denying the anthroposophical reality of the education. (Naturally I can make mistakes, get things wrong, be a fool... All of us can. When Highland Hall fired one second grade teacher (100% of the parents stood up to support him) - the first grade teacher left with him to form a competing school nearby. Nevertheless, these are facts. " *, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/15478. Unless a brilliant mind is paired with a loving heart, the result can be a sort of bloodless thinking machine.). Not YET…" [. And sometimes I intentionally try to provoke [see, e.g., "Summing Up"*], which may or may not be an aid to comprehension. This category has the following 2 subcategories, out of 2 total. And, of course, such thinking lends itself to the Scotsman fallacy: a) No real human being rejects Anthroposophy. Here's the part of my recent message that I hoped would spark discussion: "On the subject of critical thinking, it might be worth adding this: "Some people never get the hang of it. Rudolf Steiner, NATURE SPIRITS (Rudolf Steiner Press, 1995), pp. The kid simply MUST wake up, start thinking, and penetrate the clouds of occult fallacy enveloping her/him, or his/her life may well be wasted. PROFESSIONAL membership. > Anyway, Pete, I'm very moved by the situation you described. But as I have pointed out, anthroposophists are cultural heretics, so it is natural to make the distinction in certain contexts between the anthroposophical community and the non-anthroposophical community. He taught that some people are born inhuman — they are literally demons: Rudolf Steiner, FACULTY MEETINGS WITH RUDOLF STEINER (Anthroposophic Press, 1998), p. 649. Topics discussed include the intelligence of Anthroposophists, the value of critical thinking. They must cut themselves off entirely from the progress of evolution. Recovery from the damage inflicted by a Waldorf school is possible, I truly believe, but when the damage is severe the recovery, obviously, may be prolonged and difficult. Following online discussions can be difficult. Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925) was an Austrian mystic and self-proclaimed clairvoyant who founded the religion known as Anthroposophy. Waldorf schools are usually scrambling for teachers and not because that many parents are seeking an anthroposophical education for their children; its more that parents are often lured into Waldorf's facade because of their fear of conventional models of education. They are good for your overall health as they contain protein, fiber, B vitamins, vitamin E and many other minerals and antioxidants. In masonry, using such thinking may actually be a matter of life or death. Some of the well-meaning (and not-so-well-meaning) folks who have rushed forward to defend Steiner on this list may have created a misleading impression. I always thought, based on my own experience, that Waldorf schools are safe refuges. Pete: We haven't communicated all that much so I don't think there is, as yet, a great deal of trust between us...but there is, it seems, a bit of apprehension within me when I read some of the things you write...you sometimes remind me of me...there have been within my life periods of bitterness when I took "blasphemy" to level nine and my mind was filled with all sorts of dark imaginings. Anthroposophy is a discipline of research as well as a path of knowledge, service, personal growth, and social engagement. The participants may jump from subject to subject unexpectedly, various discussions may overlap. No. But these claims are untrue. A child who has been "educated" by Anthroposophists, for instance, is in desperate need of critical intelligence. The applicant gives the answer he/she knows the hiring committee wants to hear and voila - instant job. They taste great and make a satisfying snack for both children and adults. In the worst cases, people actually fall out of evolution altogether — there is no race low enough for them, so they lose their souls and become subhuman “subordinate nature spirits”. It isn't important, but maybe I should explain that in college I was a volunteer visitor/tutor at a mental institution. * It suppresses critical dialogue, resulting in elaboration but no development of theory. What else is new? Highland Hall is responsible and should be paying these costs — NOT the taxpayer. From my perspective, everything at Waldorf Watch is true. Anthroposophists believe they are on the side of the angels and their critics are on the side of the demons — or their critics actually, literally, ARE demons. Aren't I Scotsmanning, claiming that all good masons do thus and so, thereby ruling out the possibility that a good mason might do something else, or that a bad mason might do what I'm saying good masons do? Many of my Waldorf memories are thus crisp and precise, although of course others are cloudy. Misunderstandings occur all the time, even among the best of friends. The fellow got a gun and travel north to confront his wife. I would hope that my friends know me well enough to cut me a little slack or to recognize when I seem to be saying something out of character. Then Steiner may get some people arrested... Too bad huh? Bad health, on the other hand, often reflects the working out of one’s “karmic destiny.” If one enters this world carrying spiritual impurities resulting from sins and errors committed in previous lives, disease can serve as a rite of passage, purging evils from one’s bodily/spiritual system. With other colleges students, I visited institutionalized people who had severe intellectual deficits. For other cautionary tales and words of advice. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/15486. — Rudolf Steiner, FACULTY MEETINGS WITH RUDOLF STEINER, p. 650. 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